Philip (De Foreest) de Foreest (bef. 1652 - bef. 1727)

Born before 28 Jul 1652 in New Amsterdam, New Netherland

Ancestors

Husband of Tryntje Kip — married 5 Jan 1676 in Dutch Reformed Church, Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Nederland

Descendants

Died before 18 Aug 1727 at about age 75 in Albany, Albany County, Province of New York

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Biography

Philip de Foreest, also known as Philip De Forest, Philipe De Foreest, fifth son of Isaac de Foreest and Sarah du Trieux, was baptised on 28 July 1652 at the Dutch Reformed Church, Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Nederland (New Amsterdam, New Netherland: only in 1664, when the British took over the Dutch Colony, was New Netherland renamed New York.) Jan de la Montagne, Jan Peeck and Susanna du Trieux were Sponsors or Godparents at Philip's baptism. [2] Philip became the founder of the Albany branch of the De Forest (De Foreest / De Freest) family. [1] [4]

Philip wed Tryntje Kip on 5 January 1676 at the Dutch Reformed church, and removed to Bewerwyck (renamed Albany by the British), where he lived as Philip de Friest, Cooper, and served as high sheriff, and held many other offices. Philip de Foreest died at Albany, Albany, New York and was buried there on 18 August 1727. ^[1]

Philip and Tryntje had at least nine children, all baptised at the Dutch Reformed Church of Albany, Albany, New York [4] :

1. Sara de Foreest, bapt. 2 Jan 1678;
2. Susanna de Foreest, bapt. 1 Apr 1684;
3. Mertje de Foreest, bapt. 25 Jul 1686;
4. Isaac de Foreest, bapt. 20 Feb 1689;
5. Jesse de Foreest, bapt. 13 Jan 1692; wed Neeltje Quackenbosch / Quackenbush;
6. Catrina de Foreest, bapt. 25 Nov 1694;
7. Johannes de Foreest, bapt. 12 Sep 1697;
8. DAVID DE FREEST, bapt. 8 Sep 1700;
9. Abraham de Foreest, bapt. 21 Feb 1703; wed Rebecca Symonse Van Antwerpen.

Name

Berverwyck, NY is located just across the Hudson River from Albany, NY. It is here that the name transformed. DeFreest became the common spelling of the De Forest name in the Albany area of New York State. It was in Greenbush, Rensselaer, NY that most of the DeFreest family lived. It is in their honor that the Hamlet of DeFreestville ^[2] received its name. While his name was changed during life, his profile reflects his birth family name "De Forest".

Philip had three brothers that carried on the family name in Connecticut, New York City and Long Island, NY.^[1]

-Isaac was born April 25,1655 in New Amsterdam and continued to live and raise his family in New Amsterdam. His branch basically kept the spelling DeForeest. -Hendrick was born September 9, 1657 in New Amsterdam and is the founder of the Long Island branch. The spelling here is found as DeForest and DeForeest. The last born -David, born September 7, 1669 in New York City was the founder of the Stratford, Connecticut branch. Here the spelling of the name is DeForest.

There are some exceptions to these findings. But for the most part, this is what had been found to be most consistent. To say that you won't find someone with the spelling DeForest in Albany is wrong. The name DeFreest even went through a small transformation during the early 1800's to DeFriest. Philip was founder of the Albany, NY branch of De Forests. The name eventually changed to DeFreest in the Albany, NY area^[1].

Birth

Philip De Forest was born before Jul 28 1652 at New Amsterdam^[3] Philip was born in 1652. Philip De Forest ... He passed away in 1727. ^[4]

Parents

• Father: Isaac de Foreest (de Forest)(1616-1674)
• Mother: Sarah Du Trieux (1624-1692)

Occupation

Philip De Forest was a cooper (barrel maker).

Marriage

Philip De Forest b. 28 Jul 1652, New Amsterdam, NY, (son of Isaac De Forest and Sara du Trieux) married: 5 Jan 1676, at New York, New York, Tryntie Kip, b. 1656, (daughter of Isaac Hendricksen Kip and Catalina Jansen)^[1] .

Note: That on1745 04 May; Philip De Freest, of A. Co.; Maria Bloemendal, spinster, of A (L). Marriage occurred at the Albany RDC. is this a son of Philip?

Children

Known children of Philip De Forest and Tryntie Kip were:

• David DeForeest, David, son, bp 1700 Sep 08, as David Freest, at the Albany Reformed Dutch Church, Albany, NY^[5]
• Abraham Deforest, son

Death

Philip died 18 Aug 1727, Albany, NY. He was buried at Albany, NY. Note: Philip and Tryntie moved from NY cir 1680 to the Manor of Rensselaerwyck^[1].

Biographical-Historical Note

Philip De Foreest's surname is found spelt in the records as: De Foreest, DeForest, De Forest. The De Foreest family belonged to the Dutch Reformed Church. Their surname De Foreest was derived from earlier De Forest. According to the research of the deceased Kevin DeFreest of DeFreestville, NY, most DeFriest / DeFreest / De Foreest families of New York, including ours, do indeed descend from the De Forest family which came from Leiden, Holland, before that, from Avesnes (at that time in the Southern Netherlands, a province of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation; now in France, near the Belgian border), and originally from a place called Forest (modern Foret) in the border area of present-day Belgium and France. The French-speaking region of southern Belgium is called Wallonié. The adjacent formerly Dutch-speaking area which since the seventeenth century lies in northern France, is called French Flanders. From this mixed Dutch-French speaking region came the parents of our distant forefather Isaac de Fore(e)st, who himself was born on 7 Jul 1616 in Leiden, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands, was baptised there on 10 Jul 1616 in St. Gertruydis church (De Waalse Kerk), and in about 1636 emigrated from Holland to Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Nederland (since 1664: New York). One branch of this family settled in Connecticut and became anglicised. But the descendants of Philip de Foreest, and others of the family who stayed in New York, for the next two hundred years intermarried almost exclusively with other Dutch - and some German - families, thus becoming thoroughly Dutched: they were baptised in the Dutch church with Dutch christian names and spoke Dutch amongst themselves up until the mid-nineteenth century! They had long lost any memory of their distant immigrant forefather Isaac de Foreest ever having been of Walloon origin.- BdFM

From De Forest to De Friest

As shown above, this surname is most likely of distant French origin, based upon the placename Forest (modern Foret, meaning woods) found in the border area of present-day Belgium and France: thus de Forest means from the place called Forest, or, more simply, from the forest.

In French the word Forest was pronounced like the two English words For-ráced, with the accent on the second syllable. In modern French this same word - spelt Foret - is pronounced For-ráy (with the accent on the second syllable).

When a Dutchman heard this name De Forest, he would write it down according to Dutch spelling rules as De Foreest. For in Dutch, the sound ay is spelt ee. Thus in Leiden, Holland, Netherlands where Isaac de Forest was born, and in New Netherland, where he emigrated to, his surname would have been spelt by the Dutch clergymen and civil officials there as De Foreest, rather then the French way De Forest. Nota bene: this family continued to use their surname in both the Netherlands and New Netherland, alongside the more typically Dutch patronymic.

Later on in New York (which, since 1664 was the British name for New Netherland), where Isaac's son Philip de Foreest and many generations of his descendants established themselves, the De Forest / De Foreest surname changed somewhat again, as the quickly pronounced unstressed o of the first syllable dropped out completely - first in speach, then in writing. Thus, De Foreest became De Freest (pronounced like English Duh Fraced.) Already Philip de Foreest's son David was being recorded as David De Freest.

As writing is more conservative than speach, older spellings of this surname (De Foreest, De Forest) continued to be used by scribes alongside the newer spelling (De Freest). Eventually, as more people learnt to read and write for themselves, some famlies kept one of the two older spellings, whereas many others adopted the newer spelling De Freest, which better reflected the pronunciation.

In the nineteenth century a new wave of immigrants from the Netherlands came to the United States, settling mostly in New York and Michigan. Some of them bore the popular Dutch surname De Vries (De Fries). Where these new Dutch immigants came in contact with the descendants of the colonial Dutch, the name De Freest began to be pronounced like the much better known Dutch surname De Vries, De Fries (like English: Duh Freeze, but with an s instead of a z.) And so it came to be that some De F(o)reest families in New York and Michigan ended up with the newest most Dutch ever version of their surname: De Friest. Only the t at the end of the name reminds us that this surname is not at all a variant of the Dutch surname De Vries, De Fries, but is derived from the old Dutched French name De Fore(e)st. - BdFM

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4} GENI - Philip de Forest (1652 - 1727
2. ↑ now Defreestville and located about 2 miles east of Albany, NY in North Greenbush, Rensselaer, NY
3. ↑ NARDC Bapt. Record: Page 32 - Baptism 1652 28 Jul; Isaac de Foreest; Philip; Jan de La Montagne, Jan Peeck, Susanna du Trieux
4. ↑ Entered by Cal Deforest, Dec 18, 2012
5. ↑ ARDC Baptism Record: 1700 Sep 08; Philip Freest, Tryntje; David; Abraham Lansing, Maria Wendel

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/DeForest/default.aspx

• [1] Kevin De Freest, The DeFreest Family Genealogy, The DeFreest Family Home Page [on-line]
• [2] De Foreest Baptisms at the Dutch Reformed Church of New Amsterdam [on-line] www.geocites.com/diggum.geo/defrees1.htm
• [3] Kip family tree [on-line] www.cp.duluth.mn.us/~rootie/kip.html
• [4] Cuyler Reynolds, Editor, Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical and Family Memoirs, 1911 [excerpts on-line at the link hereunder] http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/families/hmgfm/deforest.html

• Website: GENI - Philip de Forest (1652 - 1727)
• Website: OliveTree - Reformed Church of New Amsterdam Baptism Records
• Source: #S-923559106: Page: Ancestry Family Trees

Text: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/7179083/person/-1147854204/facts

Text: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/7179083/person/-854059765/facts

Acknowledgements

• Thanks to Albertus for creating WikiTree profile Philip de Foreest on 19 Feb 2015. Click to [Changes page] for details of edits by Albertus and others.
• This person was created through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged on 13 September 2010.
• Cal Deforest, firsthand knowledge.
• Profile DeForest-19 renamed De Forest-150 to better conform to LNAB, Mar 1 2014.
• Profile Forest-35 merged into De Forest-150, Mar 1 2014
• This person was created through the import of Smith-Hunter.ged on 10 March 2011. The following data was included in the gedcom. This profile was eventually merged into Forest-35
• This person was created through the import of Smith-Hunter.ged on 10 March 2011.This profile was Forest-35